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Old 28th Jul 2007, 08:46
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BEagle
 
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BEagle,
Playing a bit of Devils Advocate here;
You say - "Are you legal? Yes - I'll sign. No - go away!!"
Where in the ANO, the standards documents or LASORS does it say that the Examiner being asked must check the legality of the flights claimed?


No idea. But if you don’t then you could be accused of being complicit with the pilot’s illegal flying activities.

I know we all do check but I do not think that there is any legal basis for doing such a check.

So what?

The law basically says that an examiner will sign the licence provided the pilot provides the required logbook evidence. The responsibility for complying with the law and not providing false evidence I believe rests fully with the pilot.

No, the Examiner may sign but only if he/she is completely happy.

Imagine a pilot presents a licence and logbook to you and says here is my logbook showing evidence of having met the requirements and here is the licence - please sign the rating page. You perhaps say "where is your medical" to which they reply - "it is in my CPL licence" (quite common) or they say it has lapsed and I am going to the AME next week for a renewal before I fly my aircraft to France the next day. Are you going to refuse to sign?


Yes – I would not sign. You cannot hold a UK or JAR-FCL PPL and a UK or JAR-FCL CPL concurrently – the CPL susbsumes the PPL and it is the SEP Class Rating which is being revalidated/renewed, not the licence. My answer would be “Come back with a valid medical and I’ll sign”. In any case, if he/she says the medical needs renewing, how do you know that the qualifying flights were made with a valid medical?

If so what legal basis do you have?

I neither know nor care. I’m more interested in protecting people from their own stupidity and in ensuring that they fly legally.
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