We shall all get what the market tells us we should get!!. Unfortunately we pilots at Cathay are still paid well when compaired to the other airlines around us. It is not a bad package we are on. I dont think we will get a payrise - though I do belive we deserve it, but thats just not a good enough reason and it does not work well when presented in negotiations. No, if you want a payrise you got to go and get that yourself - leave for somewhere, where you can actually get a payrise. Now where would that be? EK - starting a the bottom of the list!!?? haha.. Makes me laugh..