Well, thank god we are Cathay. We are the best and I dont think we will ever have to lower our standards. I am confident we have plenty of applicants waiting to join us as DEFOs. We may have lowered our intial requirements for our S/Os but with the DEFO option we are still attractive and the best in out industry. If everybody else would offer our lucrative package and implement our training organization they to would have no problems in attracting the best of the best. Gidday.