Thanks a lot guys, this is a great site, I love this plane and I really enjoy geting up early before work and practicing in the pattern and slow flight etc. The 70 ish speed has been working so I think I will stay with that, seems comfortable and more respondsive after the wheels lift off the ground. Flys sweet. One more question , if I may trouble you guys again. I approach at 80 kts. Many on this site are saying closer to 70-75. I am used to a cessna at 60-65, full flaps. I would like for it not to float so much. Any suggestions.?? thanks again....what a great site!!