Mr. Moderators Sirs! This eternal discussion about BA SOPs is rather frustrating. BA is happy with them, BA crews are largely completely happy with them and are not forever trying to point out it is or is not the best way to operate. We know there is no answer. This thread is being used as a device to assault and insult BA's style of operation. I echo calls to close this thread down.....it is NOT RUMOURS & NEWS and is getting nowhere, and that explains the frustration resulting in posts that you dislike!