44wing
What are you smoking (from reading your post on page 1)? There are ex RAAF DN ATC all over the place and I've never heard stuff like your spruiking - too many motivational speeched from WLM methinks. The Pitch Black recoveries were always a frigging strategically mismanaged air show and most if not all of that talent which tactically prevented the aluminium welding (back when DN used to move over 110K pa - now reduced to 80K in 06/07) is with the civil provider in Australia and OS. Celeritas' post (5 above) encapsulates it all quite nicely for all the ex-ADF and DN people I've met.
RAAF DN used to do arrivals outside 30 miles (after years of App doing both on one frequency after ASA left the bulding - looking back at that 0-50 miles era wasn't that a mismanaged bunch of egocentric bollocks!) so give it back to them!
Last edited by Track Coastal; 16th Jul 2007 at 11:58.