Pyro how true your last sentence reads, we are indeed dealing with ....well your description is perfect. Yes I do know about the FAA route he has taken but as I think you are aware the 3 men in white coats from Gatwick are not that far away. As for the son, well yes do know him as well more's the pity & is a chip of the old block, you would have to travel a long way to meet a more ignorant ill mannered bastard (I blame the genes), just ask anyone at Warton for confirmation