Jonno Said,
<* That -200 that crashed just after t/o from LTN a few months ago, that was a Classic, and you know what, the FE was the only crewmember who realized what was happening, but the Captn didn't respond to his insistant calls, and flew the aircraft into the ground, AI problem!>
Quite agree mate. Do you all remember the Air India 747 Classic many years ago that performed the exact same manouver after take-off from Bombay (sorry Mumbai!), again the F/E was heard on the flight recorder saying 'go for the standby' (horizon that is). In that instance the F/E was again ignored and all on board perished.
Seems to me that even when a F/E is carried some of our Pilot colleagues are unable to take in the input that is given. There has got to be a real CRM problem here. Two Classics lost within my flying career, both to problems (identical problems) which were identified and clearly called out by the F/E.
So for those of you that say the F/E hasn't made my operation any safer. Well maybe that could be because you are not 'mentally well prepared' to accept the advice that he/she gives. Could it be a case of "I'm a PILOT and he is just an Engineer, what does he know"?
Regards
Exeng