Dullcopilot – To answer your last posting I think you will find that the airlines you have mentioned have made redundancies by seniority lists. I believe Virgin looked at making redundancies by fleet, but then did the right thing and implemented the seniority list. What amazes me about this thread is that nobody seems to have thought into the implications of airlines being able to get rid of pilots because they do not have the required type rating. It means that all of us would only ever get to fly one type, unless of course we trained ourselves up on other types at our own expense. I don’t wish to start a lengthy debate on the rights and wrongs of seniority lists, but they are a fair way to handle redundancies in our industry.