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Old 2nd July 2007 | 10:17
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BelArgUSA
 
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Hrs to upgrade

Dear Kuwait 340 /
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A tough question to answer, because there are so many factors that enter into the question of making statistics for upgrade. To answer your question in a general manner, I would say anywhere between 1,500 to 5,000.
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Take in account of the type of equipment (airplane), and type of routes.
If you deal with small aircraft operators with smaller airplanes of the 20-50 passenger capacity, maybe you will find that 1,500 to 2,500 hrs might be the standard. Most countries require 1,500 hrs time to obtain the ATPL licence to be a captain, so expect that figure as an absolute minimum.
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If you deal with airlines having large airplanes exclusively, the figure might be the 5,000 hrs you mentioned. Occasionally, the airline does not have a large number of F/Os that are upgradable (not enough hours), so they resort to direct entry hiring of captains. Remember also that if you establish a standard of 5,000 hrs total flight time, you might also find out that they will also require 1,000 hrs experience on type as F/O with the company. Remember also that some airlines also upgrade with a "seniority system".
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I am with Aerolineas Argentinas, I happened to have been hired as a direct entry B-747 captain and instructor, and ended-up being included into their seniority list, and now also flying as a regular line captain and check captain. We have a 5,000 hrs minimum requirement for a first upgrade to captain B-737, and a requirement of 1,000 hrs on 737 as F/O for that first upgrade. But again, all rules have exceptions, and these minimums are sometimes waived. So no "hard rule"...
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Look also at hiring minimums. As an example, we hire pilots with at least the ATPL with a B-737 or MD-80 type rating, which is a must, and we select (or try to select) these new hires that have 500 hrs of turbojet time (i.e. in bizjets), besides the B-737 or MD-80 rating requirements. I often am in the new hire selection board, so I know our standards.
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Some 15 years ago, I flew a bref contract with Cargolux as 747 captain. That airline has no other types but 747 aircraft. It is likely that they might require their upgrading F/Os to have 2,000, maybe 3,000 hrs on type before the upgrade. I do not know if a total time requirement exist for them.
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I hope this is of some help to you.

Happy contrails - Masalamah...
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