Hear hear IB. C'mon guys, just coz you're not happy, why don't you just make your move? Either to management or to your favourite other airline? I've gotten my payrise. It was a little less than expected but I welcome it. I'll give this place a couple of years then I'll reassess the situation. The only thing that will cause me to leave is if/when the aircrafts become unsafe to fly. I must say that point is getting closer if engineering continues with their current culture of financial pressure ahead of accountability.