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Old 28th June 2007 | 10:22
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Tappers Dad
 
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"from my family's point of view, they find this thread, and the Panorama episode - which I have only just viewed, being on det - quite distressing, and regardless of what I tell them, they will not be reassured while such scaremongering continues".

Scaremongering ??? I don't think the Panorama programme said anything that wasn't the truth. If this scares people I am not surprised but it's the truth.

"The Nimrod is far from the only aircraft type to break in a sudden and catastrophic fashion. Commercial types that fly hundreds of thousands of passengers every day do it too, TWA800 for example".

This is true did you read the NTSB findings into the TW A800 crash ??
http://www.ntsb.gov/pressrel/2006/060629.htm

A flawed design and airworthiness certification philosophy that fuel tank explosions could be prevented solely by eliminating all likely ignition sources;

The certification of the Boeing 747 design that had heat sources located beneath the center wing tank with no means to reduce the heat transferred into the fuel tank, and no protection against the flammability of vapors that accumulated in the tank.

Sounds familiar doesn't it?


"Whilst I do hope that the BOI can identify a cause and stop it happening again, as they did following XW666's accident, if they cannot then I feel it is time to draw a line under the whole affair, and let the guys and girls who are still flying them now to get on with their jobs without any more undue stress being placed on their families and friends".

If they cannot then I feel it's time to draw a line under the whole affair. Oh thats what it was an affair, not a tragedy that has left 18 children fatherless,not a tragedy that has left 14 wives/girlfriends and parents heartbroken.
It was just an affair and lets draw a line under it

Perhaps those fighting for justice in the Chinook and Hercules threads should "draw a line under the whole affair" as well eh??

All accidents have a cause the main cause of this one was a fuel leak.
In the 6 months leading up to the accident 52 leaks were reported. In a 5 month period since 25 leaks reported. Doesn't that mean the a/c is safer now than before the crash ?
I would have thought that fact alone would give some families reassurance that things are getting better.
I also understand times between maintainence have been reduced and AAR kept to a minimum. all reassuring stuff.

Get your head out of the sand and smell the aviation fuel, this AFFAIR will NOT have a line drawn under it until after the Inquest in two or three years time.
At the inquest they will look into why there were 52 leaks in the 6 months prior to the tragedy, they will look into maintainence, Safety cases, other incidents. They will look at the reccommendations following the incident on XV227 22nd Nov 2004 to see if they were carried out.

RECOMMENDATIONS
39. It is recommended that:
a. A maintenance policy is investigated for the ruptured duct and all similar ducts.
b. A lifing policy is introduced for the ruptured duct and all similar ducts.
c. The ruptured duct is with replaced with new manufacture items on a fleet-wide basis as soon as possible.
d. A hot air leak warning system is introduced for the ruptured duct and cross-air bleed ducts.
e. The extent of the hot air leak warning system is reviewed to ensure that all possible duct failures are covered.
f. This incident is highlighted as a training point for WSOp(E).
g. The FRCs regarding SCP malfunctions are amended to reflect the information in the aircrew manuals.

If anyone knows if all/some of these recommendations were carried out please post it on here ,this is the Nimrod Information thread after all.

Only when the families of the dead know ALL the facts only then can a line be drawn.

Car crashes happen everyday it does worry my family I drive everyday.
And yes aircraft crash, that doesn't stop millions of people flying on them.

As Charlie Luncher says "Military flying is a risky business and accidents do happen". Thats reassuring Charlie isn't it.

Last edited by Tappers Dad; 28th June 2007 at 13:19. Reason: I added a question
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