Well said Hovis, the world does not revolve around pilots and the fact that so many engineers are now being made unemployed should perhaps worry the pilot fraternity. I imagine there would be more of an outcry if 100 odd pilots had lost their jobs. The aviation industry as a whole is in turmoil and hopefully we will see fewer job losses from all areas of the industry in the near future. Best wishes to anyone who has found them self in this unfortunate position.