I know several former Mesa guys. To a person, they all said it was a horrible experience. Many of them quit even without another job waiting because it was not worth to to put up with way Orenstien (sp/?) does business. Make no mistake, Measa is what it is by design. They are sure they will always get low timers to work for them at the scratch they offer, and pilot retention is not what they want. If they made it good enough to stay, then they would have to actually pay you a descent wage. Can't have that!