PSC,
The goal posts seem to continualy move on this one, but the last I heard was that new FO's had to self fund the J41 TR(12k). There was talk off a 6k refund after 3 years but im not sure if thats still the deal. As for the cabin crew post, that was something that was only ever offered to a couple of people, basically because there was no TR courses avilable at the time. It was never the 'norm'.