Some interesting points indeed. I managed (A) in minimum time, but had enough brains to know I knew sod all really, and was on a learning curve from there on in. Hence why I did the IMC soon after, to show me how much I just didn't know, and how much I had to learn. I had a bloody good instructor though, and that definately made the difference. Had it been some kid sitting in the right seat and inwardly resenting every minute of it because he is waiting for the airline job, and feeling he is better than instructing, then it might have been different. I know one of those BTW. Ask him what he does, and he tells you V. quickly 'it's because I'm building hours to get to the Airlines'. No pride in his voice that he is passing his skills along to the new guys. None at all. Thank God I didn't get a bloke like that.