Striking a Chord,. .. .I don't work for the airlines, but I'm not even remotely surprised by anything you've said. Prejudice against women is alive and well and common, and not just in aviation, but in any profession which until recently was male orientated. My cousin, a very senior tax consultant, has described things similarly. So has a solicitor friend. Until I started learning to fly I'd usually worked in fields where women were common and in the majority, so the attitudes you speak of came as a complete shock to me. Not any more unfortunately.. .. .Guys, there is a difference between jokes made deliberately to wind us up, and genuine prejudice. The first are fine. When I was working for my CPL ground exams, I was warned that one of the chaps teaching the course was known for his sexist comments. As the only woman on the course I found it out soon enough, retaliated in kind, and we had a lot of fun. I told him he had a reputation for being sexist, but that I knew he wasn't; he just pretended to be. "Damn", he said. "You've found me out". He was actually totally respectful. This is very very VERY different from the men who protest that they see women as equals who quite obviously don't, and yes, I can tell the difference; I get a lot of practice.. .. .SAC, as you say, we're "supposed" to put up with it, or pretend it isn't happening. It "isn't done" to complain about it. If you do, most guys are either genuinely surprised, or protest they're not like that at all. Well, some aren't of course - but methinks some doth protest too much. I used to just accept it all, but I'm not sure now that it's the right thing to do. If you do that, things won't change. But if you complain, yes, you're unpopular. I got accused way back on PPRuNe of being "over sensitive about gender" and it upset me at the time. I don't think I care any more what anyone says though; I'm tougher than I used to be.. .. .So SAC, thanks for bringing this up. You're getting misunderstood, but that's only to be expected. Sorry you've had 13 years of hell. I guess we were both born around 100 years too early. Because things will change, but probably rather slowly.