striking a cord:. .. .Lighten up, I was trying to show you I was in your corner.. .. .I assure you I understand the cockpit enviorement and the gender issue, like most males here I am gender blind when it comes to CRM.. .. .I do not need you to suggest I think like a captain chances are very good I was one before you were born.. .. .So once again I was not denergrating you, lighten up.. .. .And in all fairness you brought up the subject of trying to get in your knickers.. .. ................... . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />