Striking a chord I can appreciate what you say but you ceratinly are wrong in some of your comments.. .. .1. I think you'll find that most cabin crew are not impressed by "Captain Kirk" pilots either - maybe if you took time out to talk to them about your feelings you may indeed find this out - they are part of "your team" as well, and will back you up if you want to make a grievance.. .. .2. Which airline only employs female F.O's who don't "look like the back of a bus" because I for one would love to work in those "glamourous" conditions.. .. .3. LASTLY. No one is gonna take away from you the achievement of working in a male dominated enviroment for the past 13 years. You have paved the way for other women to take up the role - such as my girlfriend (who is an F.O. who are now making the career as pilot a more acceptable one for the fairer sex. BUT you cannot condem ther female pilots for not feeling the same way as you do. You may have had it tough but things are indeed different now - maybe you company needs to be brought into the 21st century a bit - I don't know. What I do know is that she is a woman sure of her position, skill, and competence, and she will follow the rules and exercise her right to free speech or complain if need be. However she is a strong independant woman who meets challenges head on and plays "guys" at their own game - using what she's got and often shocking them!!! More power to her!!!!! Everyone's differnet that's what makes life interesting.