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Old 25th May 2007, 13:36
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Dream Buster,

You continue to amaze me. If you actually had long haul experience you wouldn't continue to make some of your comments. NO Captain of a 21th century airline on a long haul flight would leave the cockpit and take controlled rest in the cabin. However, on EVERY long haul flight above a certain duty time threshold there is a legal requirement for additional crew, and consequently a legal requirement for rest outside of the flight deck (unless you're flying a C-141 Starlifter, and have bunk beds on the flight deck...). The time it takes for that Captain resting in a seat, or in a crew bunk, is completely inconsequential since the crew manning the flight deck are fully qualified and competent to handle any abnormal situation that arises.

There's a difference between controlled rest on the flight deck, which is a legal term, and sleeping on board as part of your in-flight rest period. The discussion on this board is chiefly about controlled rest on the flight deck. However, my previous post simply touched the subject of sleep intertia, and the highly personal nature of ramp-up time after sleep, regardless of place of sleep being cockpit/bunk/your own bed. Some people are fully alert on contact, and others need half an hour to get with the program.

If you're concerned with passengering on my airline I think you should stop flying as a passenger altogether since the practice of napping onboard is omnipresent in the flying world.

Sadly enough for you, you flew ultras-hort haul, didn't have the ability to rest properly, and unfortunately paid a big price for it. (Possibly also suffering from the infamous 146 fumes). For that I'm sorry for you having to leave flying, except that maybe now you get proper night time sleep, which is a huge bonus in life.

During my 20 year career I've spent the last 10 in long haul widebody operations, and sleeping onboard is a whole world in itself. However, even during short haul European and US operations napping was, and always will be, a must if you want to maintain a reasonable level of safety during the critical phases of flight. Unfortunately, coffee can only get you so far...

Once more, if passengers are concerned with tired pilots, they need to pay for the hike in ticket price from airlines hiring more crew. In the end, almost all people are only willing to pay bottom price, and then sit around and complain about the dangers. Money talks as usual, and unfortunately for us tube drivers, the bean counters know this all too well.
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