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Old 23rd May 2007, 10:49
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Roffa

 
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If you call up before passing 4000ft expect an "after passing" instruction for this heading. In the same transmission you can give a climb instruction as you have ensured that the aircraft will not climb at the stack.(not much fun for anyone involved).
No you haven't, you've climbed it through the stack before you've seen it take the turn away from the stack.

Not a particularly good practice.
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