Alexban, yes I suppose airmanship, common sense and experience are ALL in serious decline. I always thought I was getting into a state of the art industry with top notch jockeys. I was wrong on both counts and have had to accept that it is all pretty average really. Now that I have accepted that we are all average, the 737 is too complicated in the Air Cond and Press dept. Several serious mistakes have been made, but the system goes on. The master caution system is made by Radio Shack (joke) and is also a seriously poor ergonomic excuse for a warning system!