Like you Neil, SQP1 is WRONG, I to can remember last year an engine flaming out on the approach into CGN and a shutdown after takeoff when ATC reported flames as long as the aircraft coming from one of the engines which was surging when departing from CPH. Obviously SQP1 wasnt in the company then. Interesting why SQP1 keeps trying to impress on people its just the same person posting here and changing there name, thats rubbish. As for fumes yes there is a problem with the engines, they are trying to do what they can with the rescources they are allowed to use. Cost is an issue aswell as engine overhaul times and a lack of engines. SQP1 take obe ones advice! There are lots of people in dhlair concerned about fumes, the DFO is doing his best I think, and its encouraging to see. Hopefully these events will become less or nil. However they do occur and they are worrying and there is no quick fix.