I didnt say they were fighting for one thing or another, just whinging. If the best they can do is whinge on here then all it is is just that. Whinging. I guess if you (i.e they) are FR Captains they have enough experience to go elsewhere so why not just do that. If half as much effort was put into transferring to the yet unamed mecca of T&C's we would all have a quieter life. I wrote a letter to MOL directly and he responded the next day. Direct action works - whinging doesnt. You cant blame him for that - I dont tolerate whinging from my 2 year old and she doesnt even get 80K a year.