I wasn't having a pop at Flybe per-se, was just pointing out that they seem to having handling problems at MAN that they are very aware of and the customer service issues that they bring up. As for the points raised in the replies, the aircraft had been parked on stand for a good hour with no activity going on right up until the supposed boarding time, when fueling, and nothing else commenced, surely the security and cleaning could have been done in this time? As for the APU, yes, it was a Q400, but the point the captain made was that as it had been disconnected there wouldn't have been enough time on the taxi to charge the batteries adequately, hence we had a five minutes sit in the engine run up area to ensure we had sufficient power. As for the you get what you pay for argument, well, this was originally booked as a BA Miles reward flight, so for nothing I'm guessing I shouldn't really complain, at least FlyBe offer a MAN-CDG now. As for Air France, used them last year, thought they were great, probably not great enough to justify the extra cost, but when you're on a a through ticket from MAN to the far east it's probably as good as being for free anyway. Anyway, to confirm my earlier post "Flybe seem to think that their handling at Manchester is appalling"