i luv jet noise
BINGO...Mate just ask yourselfs who is complaining about the pilots giving advice.who is going to lose out if you both got together.
You gotta look at the big picture.Have some meetings and work out what you want.
Boys and Girls what if you and the pilots got together to form one union?
I reckon it would be good for us to do it to but there is to much history for that to work but not with you guys .