has that not got more to do with the approx 5 years extra sen between c737x and c320l?
No i'm in no hurry for either, i'll almost certainly have 320 seniority before i move.
the point that we've both have made in round about ways is seniority is everything in bidline and worth very little in carmen! given the flexible and secret feast that is www long term plan for us all i would think that the safest place to be is at lhr protected by bidline.
I dont really see what difference where you're based makes, the days of different pay and contracts at LGW are long gone. We're trying to help guys just about to join BA with 0 seniority hence my support for Carmen.
so i think my point is pretty valid. your a very junior fo on the 744 who is advising deps to go to lgw becasue carmen will suit them better whilst remaining on the bottom of a bidline fleet and stating you won't leave till you get a command!
A bidline long haul fleet with seeded blindlines is a totally different animal to a short haul fleet which doesnt. You know that as well as i do. Again the guys on this thread do not have the option of the 744 if they did do you think my advice would be the same? As for my seniority well its moving up quite nicely now.
you've never used bidline on SH or been on a LHR SH fleet. my point again is that there are plenty of folks out there who have used both systems and i've yet to meet anyone, apart from you or the management, who would prefer carmen. when the company is desperate for us to give up bidline for carmen i'm afraid i smell a rat.
There is noone in the company who has ever done Carmen and been in the bottom 30% of the airbus. Anyone leaving LGW will have a couple of years of seniority taking them above the blind lines and leaving them more control.
Have you ever used Carmen? I did for 3 yrs, max around a 1/3 up a seniority list. My prefs were avoid early starts and do 1 or 2 nice trips a month. I didnt do a report before 9am for 2 yrs and always got a decent trip or 2. I also had every single important day off i required. That is simply not possible with Bidline
and i think we both agree that when considering which base to join that any expansion in the company will be at LHR and therefore relative sen will rise quicker on those expanding fleets. the only requirement for fo's at lgw is to replace the one's that are leaving to come to lhr!
Remember we're only talking about the airbus. There may be minor expansion but only a couple of airframes the only expanding going on after that will be Long haul. In fact as LGW is likely to have its fleet replaced in the nearish future (or get binned) its may be the LGW guys get released from their freezes early.
Finally, you are taking this utterly the wrong way. I will be on the picket line at ANY attempt to alter BLR's I think they're the best agreement going in the airline industry. Believe it or not i would actually very much support its introduction at LGW, but while Carmen remains I stand by my claim that seniority number 3200 at LGW will have more lifestyle choice than 3199 at LHR. Sen 2800 will almost certainly be better off at LHR but thats several years away.