Helimutt
Hang on, if the engine(s) are running and the blades are turning, isn't that movement for the purposes of taking off, without this movement it would go nowhere.
as far as the ANO is concerned and probably your FTL scheme, er NO
as far as JAR-FCL 2 and ICAO are concerned, er YES
Camp Freddie, do you log flight time as chocks out to shut down? If so, doesn't this leave periods where the a/c is turning and burning on the ground waiting, FTL being used up?
for your logbook, count Rotor Start to Stop, if you want (ICAO/JAR)
for FTL, we count from first movement to rotor stop (ANO/FTL)
for the tech log, airborne time only.
periods on the ground rotors running after first movement count for the FTL, but not the aircraft.
the trick is to start up then taxi ASAP to pick up passengers, then the FTL clock is running !
a large helicopter company I know at one time banned taxiing to pick up passengers, they always took the passengers to the stationary rotors running aircraft before it moved, also they banned rotors running between flights by making you shut down each time, all to save that bit of FTL at the start of each flight. in this way they calculated they could employ 3 pilots less as they were trying to utilise the 800 hours max a year.
isnt aviation just grrreat
regards
CF