Wingswinger, thats not helpful. For a start its thread creep as it is FR Pay and conditions being discussed. Ask any FR pilot if he/she thinks the training and checking is not based around an extraordinary high level of safety and s.o.p. adherence. The issue under discussion is being suitably rewarded for doing that whilst the company turns a handsome profit.
p.s. All airlines have incidents. Print them all out, for fair comparison.