Who's arguing? I'm not, we're discussing, however I suggest you are trying to incite one, I'm not doing it as suggested, my point still remains, I don't want to be doing the props fine thing in the flare, simple as that, I am merely stating that I thought Chuck may have thought I was talking about fining them downwind which wasn't the case, and there's a big difference between the hundreds of feet at the start of finals and the flare.