thanks for the info on the loan!! 75k sounds a good amount i guess, am a student too, but used to spending lots!!! will all have to change i guess! the foundation course works out at quite good value for money i think if you look at the cost per hour of flying, much cheaper than somewhere privately in this country!if i get there ill prob do the full 69hours, and go for JAA PPl aswell, while im at it!