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Old 20th March 2007 | 12:18
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Jackson Bombay
 
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Ek 346 FTL's ??

EK 346. Rpt 02:10
DXB-KUL 03:10 14:15 BLK 7h05
KUL-CGK 15:25 16:25 BLK 2h00
Total BLK 9h05 FDP 11h15
FDPMaxNoFact : 10h15
FDPAugmentedExtra1 : 11h16
All times Local
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Could somebody please explain to me how you can do this trip WITH-OUT writing a discretion report.
The max FDP (2 crew, 2 sectors, acclim) at that time is 10h15.
The actual FDP is 11h15, so they put 3 crew on it.
Total block is 9h05 so you divide this by 9 (rest in seat) to give an extension of 1hr and 1 min.
This means Max FDP (3 crew, 2 sectors) is now 10h15 +1h01 =11h16
(FDP is 11h15)
This means if you are 1 minute late you are in discretion.
Ok the turn in KUL goes well and you land CGK a bit early, but to extend duty with 3 crew you need 3 hours INFLIGHT rest each.
My understanding of "Inflight" is Blocks Off to Block On. I have NEVER managed to get all 3 crew on this flight to get 3 hours each because actual block time has always been less than 9hr’s.
So as I see it, if you’re late by more than 1 minute it is a discretion report and if you are early and Actual block time is less than 9hr’s it’s a discretion report.
Should they really roster an 11h15, two sector night duty, reporting at 0210 local where nearly every flight is in discretion? Is this safe?
I know I feel GREAT flying in CGK at 16.25 local (CB’s, Terrain, Traffic, ATC vectors etc.) at least 24 hr’s after my last proper rest.
Either these reports are not getting to the GCAA or people are not writing them.
JB
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