Buy guys as I stated above this group is being run very profesionally . all these facts have been considered and dealt with . the aircraft have been serviced on a number of occasions now both at oxford and barton .The group has been runing for over 6 months with very few problems . I initially treated this idea witha bit of suspicion but took the plunge and am loving it . Im flying two hours tmrw in a gramin 1000 cessna 172 and it will cost me 110 quid , have a look at how much a pa38 at your local flying club will cost you for one hour.