I really feel for the two pilots mentioned in this thread, as Im sure they will get lost in the shuffle. Heres hoping the ALPA is as strong as the dues they collect. . .Its really scary to know we are at the last notch and protected by the National Guard. They have gone out of their way in the last few years to put uniforms on otherwise homless folks with little education and other questionable standards. As to the Full Time Guard, most of those folks ended up there, because they could'nt find gainful employment in other sectors. We are really in deep s-h-i-t.