As an LHR BA person who was 'TUPED' some years ago and came back to BA, i cannot disagree with Fleet manager. He is telling us all as it is. My colleagues here and at LGW just see your job loss as a chance for them to survive a bit longer. That was exactly the attitude displayed in my own case and some other 400 plus staff in the 80;s and many thousands since. I have a number of friends in your situation and I can assure you I understand yhe strength of feeling but at waterworld it counts for nothing. One of the similar threads refering to ground staff at Man suggests they all pove to BA how efficient they are and maybe thus save theirs jobs. It will not happen the deal is done and Waterside will pay big monies to get rid of Connect and ground ops staff at the regions.