Melchett01 thanks for that, I was not sure if I had read/understood what you had written correctly, but I had.
I_stood_in_the_door, I agree with most of what you say but a lot of the people on here joined up before you and everything was 'rosy in Britains front garden when they joined up', most of us also did what we volunteered for without complaint and also had a lot of fun on the way. But most people are merely saying that the climate in the forces has changed drastically now, so we are not in a position to advise on wether it is a good idea for mr x or y etc to join or not join. With regards to 'If people have a problem with that, then why join up?' again agreed, but what of the people that joined up before it changed, as has been said then they should leave, which is what a lot are doing.