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Old 14th February 2007 | 19:40
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FlyingForFun

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To add to Whopity's and BEagle's reply:

For the incipient stall, the wings are not actually stalled. I can only guess that whoever told you "to teach students to add power and at same time level wings and into climb" is mistakenly saying that, because the wings are not stalled, it's ok to level the wings?

The fact is that you are pretty close to a stall - close enough to experience one or more of the symptoms of approaching the stall. Using aileron increases the angle of attack on the upgoing wing -and if this wing is close to the stall before using aileron, it will be even closer once you start using aileron. That's why we are all saying that the symptoms must have have stopped before leveling the wings.
i am also in need of direction as to what to teach for stall in turns. ie.. get student to descend in base configuration, level off, start turn while raising nose.... recover
There are two specific, different things to teach.

The first is the theory and practice of stalls in the turn. The theory is that stall speed will increase, there is an increased chance of wing-drop, and also the recovery which we've been discussing. This can all be covered in ground-school, but should be followed by a demonstration of a full stall in the turn. There is no need for the student to repeat this demonstration.

The second is the exercise of simulating mishandling by raising the nose on the base-final turn. This is done exactly as you say (the level off in base configuration isn't necessary, but won't harm, so teach whatever you're happiest with). The student should be taught to initiate the recovery himself at the first sign of the stall (which will be the stall warner or the light buffet, whichever happens first).

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