Jet II
the fact remains that BASSA have achieved a better deal for their members than is on offer to the rest of the company employees
Wrong. BASSA have achieved nothing of the kind. All company employees have the same deal, 8.5% if you want to retire at age 60 and 5.25% if you want to go at age 65. For flying crew only, because we were originally contracted/promised a normal retirement age (NRA) of 55, BA offered a five year transitional arrangement. This was in the original offer made 1 year ago. All that has happened is the money that was destined for that scheme is now being used to fund the pensionable pay increase and the transitional arrangement has been dropped.
There was no new money, just using the offer already tabled a year ago in a different way. The pensions deal was done before the BASSA ballot had even closed.
So what makes you think BASSA have done so well? Could it be that they just forgot to mention this/lied to you in their previous comms in order to whip up the strike? Take a look at my post no.529 on 23rd Jan:-
BASSA conveniently forget to mention the £6m per annum that has been ringfenced to help negate the effects of the increased retirement age. If used in the same way as the pilots have done, pensionably pay scales could be raised by approx 20%. If this is done and the age 60 option is taken (8.25% contribution), they would get back close to the position they want for only 8.25%, not 17.5% as claimed.
Funny old thing that, BASSA have now got an 18.75% increase to pensionable pay (all the work on this was done by BALPA by the way)
Joetom
However, now the Flying Staff pay and pensions have been sorted out(18.75% pensionable pay rise and bigger pensions for all) the company can now sort out its ground staff pay and pensions, interesting times to see if the company treat all staff the same, I would guess if the ground staff were to be offered 18.75% pensionable pay rise the pension issues would be fixed, but I think ground staff will have to pick up the tab for the Pilots and Cabin Crew pension deals, time to see if the ground unions can raise their game to BALPA or BASSA standards, enjoy the show.......
You are beginning to sound a bit like a broken record. There are several (inconvenient) bits of the argument you keep ignoring:-
1) As said above, this money has been there from day 1 of the company's original offer of a transition arrangement for flying staff which was made a year ago. Did you object to it then? Now the money is being used in a different way, all of a sudden people are crying foul.
2) Flying staff are having their retirement age raised from 55 to 65 (10 years) whereas for ground staff it was only 60 to 65 (5 years). Hence the transition arrangements in (1) above. BA acknowledged the unfairness of this by making the transition offer in the first place.
3) By raising the pensionable pay scales by 18.75%, the employees contribution into the scheme also raises by 18.75%, thereby causing a reduction in take home pay. So the flying staff are paying more in to get more out.
4) The trustees have agreed to this - they have a legal obligation to see fair play and that one group is not advantaged at the expense of another
Overstress
Jet II - you say you hear what M.Mouse & TopBunk say - but you obviously don't understand it, also as displayed by your latest post. BASSA has 'achieved' the reduction of a purser, and sold it as a victory to its members.
Better to keep your mouth shut & be thought a fool, than to open it to confirm the fact.
Absolutely no need to be so harsh on Jet II. BASSA have been so economical with the truth/lied so often in their comms that a lot of CC don't know the reality of the situation. BASSA have kept saying "believe us & noboby else". At least on this forum we have had the opportunity of putting other points of view. You shouting Jet II down like that does nothing to foster free speech.