Thanks chaps I think it is the prog using d3d that is the prob,I want to send some screen shots from a Flight sim to a mate.. .The one I had, you activated before you started the sim, then you just hit a couple of keys and it captured the screen on the fly, stored it in its own folder in in ipg formate i think, very simple to use and it worked everytime.. .I did try another one I downloaded but I could never get it to work properly.. .I think I formated my Harddisc since the last time I used it, wish I could remember the name, it was thumb 4 something.. . . . <small>[ 24 March 2002, 12:34: Message edited by: tony draper ]</small>