Originally Posted by
chornedsnorkack
With or without thrust?
Without.
Try doing this in a Cessna with power; you simply won't lose altitude. Why? See below.
Is a forward CG all that forgiving? Inverted stall of tailplane should lead the craft into a nosedive, which is the fastest way down...[/quote]
What I more correctly meant to say is that Cessna trainers in general are very forgiving machines with a lot of room for student error built into them. With your typical two crew loading, and CG well within limits, the nose will tend to break about at the same time as the stall progresses into a degree where you are no longer able to maintain altitude. With a CG closer to the forward limit, the nose will actually break prior to losing aileron control; meaning that it is virtually impossible to stall the wing to a degree so significant it would cause excessive RoDs. As earlier stated, power off-full elevator back pressure will yield about 500fpm and limited, but some, aileron control, while full power, full elevator back pressure will yield level, however somewhat erratic flight, or at worst a slight descent.