flyingsaucer, you better believe it mon ami. If you find paying for your type rating incredible, how do you find ?. . . . . . paying for - your medical / licence renewal / uniform / I.D pass / car park pass / transport to and accomodation at simulator for recurrent checks and upgrade courses / no crew food or water / no loss of licence insurance / no pension / paying for your own manuals if required in paper form (no I'm not joking) / paying for a replacement cheque to be issued if the company fail to get your sector cheque to you / taking months (if ever ) to be reimbursed for any costs you incur at the company's behest (if you were nieve enough to pay in the first place) /the list is endless. Think you should really have a good read of the thread "ryanair, a guide for prospective employees" before you make any hasty moves. The outcome of the supreme court decision delayed from 21st Dec to 31st Jan should clarify for you , and everyone else , whether it is worth coming / staying here.