Mr. Bloggs put it very well. The CX pilot group is scared of what lurks behind the corner. They are scared now, and will be scared with every proposal management puts out.....and considering they will all be sh#t, not the position one would hope for. How spineless can we be, the ONLY strength we have is in our NUMBERS. So many speak of wanting an increase in pay......why would CX give ANYTHING to us when they know the pilot group will crumble at the first sign of resistance. They will continue to hand down and destroy what is left of the Cos until this pilot group realizes that this behavior is unacceptable. This company is too profitable for Swire to let it just dissolve, and that's what would happen if ALL of the pilots stood as one and started rejecting offers that were not in our best interests. They cannot fire us as a whole. And if one goes down....then they need to know....that the rest of us will follow. Voting YES for RP07 is a mistake because it lets them once again divide the issues. It is something THEY obviously want, and we need these rostering practices as a bargaining tool for more important pieces of the cake. If by some miracle, management does decide to open talks about pay, what will we have to bargain with??? What incentive would they have to pay us more??? Here's to not being so spineless.