Hi Fish, working very closely with Herman. I know his story, about leaving ATNS. We were (are) part of the Gromet trials, but it concentrates only on flying the RNAV approaches. We still lack any ATC porcedures, i.e. holding, separations etc. What does ATC do when you have one acft for the RNAV approach, the other for an ILS and the third a visual. I can't find any documentation yet on ATC procedures.