Hi whirlybird, no probs
I would say that a dynamic roll to the crashed position is caused by an outside force which creates a rolling moment that cannot be controlled by the pilot with cyclic and collective.
You may have an artifical but balanced rolling force by say, positively holding one skid into a ledge, if the pilot further rolls the aircraft into the ground uphill with a cyclic input that could have controlled the rolling moment had it been applied the other way, then I would say that is finger trouble. BIG FINGER TROUBLE.
That is where I disagree with what I though sunnywa was saying, i could easy be mistaken.
Mind you most people (especially those that own/insure A/C) would also comment that allowing oneself to be trapped into an uncontrollable dynamic roll is also, major finger trouble.
Happy new year and BTW someone had better roll out the welcome mat for the vanquished elleven, 'tis only a game after all.
Cheers tet