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Old 28th Dec 2006, 16:22
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Now that Chrismas and the peace time is over, let's recap from the begining.

Everyone seem to read what he wants and make their own rules based on rumors.
Post #7 :
Originally Posted by underread east
Aye but these are the internationally agreed rules. TCAS resolution may have been avoided if the others could understand what was going on.
The international agreed rules are the ICAO annexes.There is nothing else on international Aviation RT telecommunications. These are saying that the language to be spoken on radiotelephony is the language of the country overflown. When there is no agreement, English is to be used or provided.

Nothing to do with ICAO 7 languages, no it is the full official 220 .If tomorrow Catalonia province becomes independant and has Catalan as its official language, they can use it on the RT.
These are the rules we have to work with .
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If you knew me , you would also know that I am for the use of English as a single language on International RT , but the internationally agreed rules say differently ans this is part of the problem. It has become heavily political and will not be resolved overnight , unfortunately.

As to the use of one's own language in emergency situations, I am not that sure this is an issue. It is more a Human factor problem than a political one.
Ask yoursef the question if a US or British citizen had an emergency above USA or UK and the International RT language was French or German, in which language he/she would communicate in emergency situations ?

Back To TCAS : For me what the gentlemen has said above and what I have understood , is that RAs could be avoided if one knows what is going around, if that RT had been in English instead of Spanish.
If that was not meant please educate me, English is not my mother tongue. If I am correct then my remark stands.

From the other ACAS remarks posted on this thread ,I am totally amazed to see today pilots and controllers, 4 years after Ueberlingen , still not understanding how TCAS works..
But that is another subject .

Back on the original thread : Dual language in ATC wether it is Spanish, French or Russian is not going to go away overnight.
It will come one day, but not in my lifetime.

Also please stop using the CDG accident as a example. Read the official accident report before posting. The reason why that poor chap was killed was not because the take off clearance of the MD80 was in French.
There is a recommendation on this report from the BEA that ops in CDG be in English only, true, and that was tried an unfortunately and sadly , the French AF pilots union killed this after a few hours.

Now I wish you all , in English, a nice and safe new year.
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