Originally Posted by
formertonkaplum
Whilst I can probably imagine some of the referred too SNCO's and Management were utilising excuses available, you should also consider that maybe some did have other places to be. Flying Squadrons do require a certain level of senior presence in order to function legally. (EG More supervision than a medicine ball needs!!)
I suggest you spend some time, following around engineers on a busy squadron and view for yourself, the work required to make even the most modern of airships airworthy. Then, from behind your blinkered veil there maybe a glimmer of knowledge about what the F*ck you preach.
As for the comment about beer calls.... yes people do need time to socialise and unwind; it is essential. Are you saying you want us to hold beer calls in the gym? Get a life.... The beer call is invariably in our own time anyway but that’s fair enough as we are not formally required to drink to specific levels. We are required to have fitness at specific levels and so should be given time, 'with or without the 21yr old Cpl attempting humour' to train and maintain our levels.
Colourful language from someone who admonished Toddbabe for similar earlier in the thread...
Like I said earlier, I have been around long enough to know many engineers on busy squadrons, and some of my family are engineers. And I have found over many years that those who want to, of all ranks, seem to be able to find the time to keep themselves fit, even if it means sometimes doing it outside of normal working hours. Several others have added their comments to this thread as well. And still those who can't be bothered or are too lazy to keep themselves fit keep on coming out with the same old excuses....
Oh yeah, of course I meant come and have your beer calls in the gym. What great idea that would be :
ugh:
The fact that beer calls are invariably in your own time was exactly my point: you don't seem to be complaining about doing
that use of your own time.... Instead of everything revolving round getting p*ssed, why not 'socialise and unwind' with a game of football or volleyball? At least that has the added benefit of being good for the health.
My eyes are well and truly open: you're not going to change your mind, and I'm not going to change mine. The only sad thing is that I suspect that your attitude will percolate down to your staff and will then be perpetuated for another generation....
MM