Well, we have PAMOS at Brizzel (near enough the same as the all singing, tea making SAMOS) and we are prompted by the machine to check it then we send it manually (as opposed to the computer just putting it out at the right time). I hate it as I was trained on the system elsewhere to update the met as and when it needed to be updated rather than just at 50 and 20 when it was sent out. Our ATSAs have recently completed the two day (or was it one day?) partial course to bring them into line with the rest of NATS, but all our ATCOs have full Met Obs ratings anyway, so if, god forbid, the system goes tits up, we can do the obs the old fashioned way if we have to. Anyway, because we are used to doing it ourselves, it may well continue like that as long as we aren't too busy, then we can fall back on the ATSAs.