Indeed EGCC they are very nice pieces of kit indeed , As I mentioned in my previous post the 172 sp is brand new and is garmin 1000 equipped , if you have never flown one of these aircraft the kit is amazing . I think the 172 sp is coming up to its 150hr servicing thats how new it is . The other two aircraft are also very well equipped , the archer is very well maintained indeed. The twinstar is slated to be based at blackpool im not sure of the exact figures but will be a standing order of about £175 pm and hourly rate of £110 , find a twin anywhere for that price . Although like you say give craig a ring he will be more thatn happy to explain it to you . You are correct in that the more you fly the more you save . The group also has a forum where you can ask embers questioons or indeed get the gen from craig direct . I love flying the garmnin cessna although it does take the work out of it a bit , if your going long distances its amazing cracking autopilot all linked into the gps. I would suggest getting a flight in it with a group member or Craig and just have a go , I initially flew pa38's-28s with RVR the amount of money i have saved flying these aoircraft is excellent , but just to stress the pint if you dont fly you dont save money