I agree with you Jolly, but easier said than done sometimes, confronting a captain who you don't know well about something as serious as this in the sometimes frantic time before a departure. I also agree we shouldn't be slagging the captain involved. I'm sure a lot of us have been in a somewhat similar predicament at one time or another. I wish him all the best in the future. As from most incidents in aviation, maybe we can all learn from another's experience.