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Old 9th Dec 2006, 12:29
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chikenscanfly
 
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Think About It

I understand peoples opinion regarding ryanair from outside of the company is different and what they see at face value appears not all that bad...

but rest assured, this is nothing more than a money-making scheme...

there are larger numbers of pilots leaving the company at current, much more than what Ryanair would like people to be aware about. To them information regarding how much they need new pilots is counter productive to their managerial tactics and objectives...
once they give people a sense of empowerment, they can no longer use intimidation to drive down costs...

as for it being worth it, there are many other job opportunities out there, even for low timer ab initio cadets...
I would highly recommend those looking to fish around a bit deeper before putting yourself up for an extra loan of 30K...

Ryanair isnt all glory with a couple of moaners hanging round online forums...
Cadets joining Ryanair now find their contracts and agreements changed almost daily, often leading to them earning not what was first promised, and quite often waiting up to 4 months between finishing their sims and starting with line training...
4 months without salary, and when you do finally start your net salary will max out at 1000 a month for a good 3 months...
its a long story, and they drag it out to keep the numbers artificially high whilst keeping the costs for them low... Cadets are a dime a dozen...

As for brookfield... its happening a lot at the moment, and oleary said he wants 40% of the company to be on contractual basis...
it goes deeper here too... hes punishing the current pilots who did not accept 'negotiated' contracts that were proposed last April... So those still on the old 5-3 deal are being put on standby to severely depress their salaries whilst those on the new deal are flying to the max...
mind you, its also cheaper for him that way... the new deal payrates are up to 15% lower than those in the original deal...

Its all very complex... To fully explain it would require an entire thread alone and most people would dismiss it as being made-up rants...
that in itself is shocking that things have come this far beyond the point of disbelief ...

If you feel you have to get into Ryanair, understand that you have been warned... Your colleagues on the other end will help you out as best they can, but in the end of the day you will have made your own bed, and the way things are going for current cadets that bed is looking like a pretty cold hard floor...
If you find another alternative check it out ofcourse, but I would recommend you go for that one instead (unless it is a severly worse deal)...

and about the matter of pay... new Ryanair captains are pulling as low as EUR 54,000 a year, and salaries have dropped amongst the pilots 15% from last year...
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